R.G. 9/23/98 8:24 AM We're being too general. We need to be careful with terms here. There are four kinds of noise to be concerned with. There is: 1. power supply ripple (100 or 120Hz) 2. induced noise picked up from outside the amp, which may be 60Hz, line synched hash (fluorescents and SCRs) RF, or any other stuff that radiates. 3. noise generated inside the circuits, primarily thermal noise and shot noise if it's not oscillating internally. 4. AC hum (50 or 60Hz) Power supply ripple is created in the rectifier/power supply system, and can be contained inside it by proper wiring and grounding of the rectifiers and first filter cap. No connection to AC ground is needed, or changes the amount of ripple. The filter caps filter the ripple, with perhaps a small ripple reduction by the PT leakage inductance. With the exception of a shield inisde the power transformer and freedom from AC leakage, this is the only noise the transformer/filter caps can do anything about. Induced noise is what an AC ground connection can reduce. This is stuff that radiates in, RF and the 37th through 159th harmonics of power line hash; a connection to AC safety ground can reduce this by tying the entire chassis to a low impedance point and shunting this radiated energy to earth ground before it gets into the signal. Note that if the chassis is used as a ground return, the stuff can STILL get into the signal path because of the difference in potential from place to place on the chassis. If you have NO connection of the chassis to RF/earth ground, you will have induced noise because of the noisy RF environment we live in. The old 2 wire systems really had a ground, it was just the neutral line in the power system, and the "line reverse" switch contrived to tie the chassis to that "ground" through a capacitor that supposedly bled the radiated (and presumably high frequency stuff) to ground while blocking the low frequency AC line. This always produced some small amount of AC leakage, so two wire amps are always "hot" a little. This radiated stuff is what you can make quieter by "grounding" the chassis, except for AC leakage, which is a fault condition anyway. Even if it sounds like "hum", it's the radiated noise. If you have a series of harmonics of a note, your ear inserts the fundamental (see Seashore's "Psychology of Music"), so the hash makes you hear the hum. AC hum can be caused by internal magnetic radiation from the PT or AC filament leads, not grounding the AC filament supply, AC leakage from the AC wiring or from heater electron leakage. Of these, only the AC filament hum and AC leakage are grounding issues. The filament hum you reduce by tying the filament winding to a fixed DC voltage relative to signal ground. AC leakage is what can make the amp really hum. The AC wiring or PT are connected to the chassis by a low enough impedance to leak AC. This is not only noisy, it's dangerous. The AC safety ground can make the amp quieter in this case by bleeding the leaked AC to earth ground before it gets into the signal path. Note that if you use the chassis for signal ground, you can get hum voltages caused by INDUCED currents flowing in the chassis as magnetic leakage causes the currents and a small voltage drop. So, the long way round to answer your question is "Yes, ground connection makes them quieter, but it's not the PT or filters that account for it."