Liam, Sounds about right! I always leave the cap off the summing resistors..... I can't stand the brightness on the bright channel and what this cap adds in brightness to the bright channels is also what it shaves off of the already bass heavy muddy channel. If you leave this cap out there will be better balance between the two channels. Then I add a 120pf bright cap to the volume control of the bright channel so darker guitars have a fair chance of sounding half way decent at very low settings of the volume control. Teles and Strats get to use the higher gain bottom heavy mud channel. With this setup, the amp is more usable to my ears. You can also try a 390pf treble cap with a 47k slope resistor. The amps are so easy to adjust to suit your needs. Isn't it great!? Peter S Peter is right,some of the reasons of the different channels sound, is the cathode caps and resistors values, so tweaking here may make a difference in what you want. Also the plate caps.. use .02.. and like peter said.. you could use a different value, 250pf cap for the treble. and bypass the bassier sounding channel with a 120pf cap..tone slope should be 56k or 47k.. and change the middle pot..double the value.. it takes trial and error to find the right thing your looking for. but you'll get it..Thats why tweaking them is so good. either you have a channel thats too bright or the other is to bassy.. then they jumper to try and blend them. but if you tweak them for sound you like you won't need to do this and have two channels you can use..I like the sound of them modded like the JTM45/5F6A with a few tweaks..standard. 56K slope.. 250pf treble,middle pot changed.. a feedback switch .,and .02 caps..plate,, and tweak the cathode caps and resistor values..and some voltage changes depending on the amp.With EL34 tubesThis setup gives the more Hendrix tone. chuncky and thick, but still has plenty of treble.. Thats the sound and tone i always wanted..and what i try to always get from my amps..{for me} Selecting the right preamp tubes also makes these amps have there own voice.So much depends on so many things.. guitar used,pickups and speaker cab.. Richie{~}==::: Richie, do you prefer the shared cathode or the split cathode? Also what happens by doubling the mid pot? Thanks I like to split them.. the mid pot change gives alot more mid control.. and a little boost.. ? 0.02 plate caps? Richie{~}==::: Give this a try. 1) On the Normal channel have a 500pf on the Volume pot. This will give it just enough high-end. The original 330uf cap on the cathode has drifted, it actualy reads over 450uf on this amp, something to note. This is the perfect Strat channel, big bottom yet spanky and fresh without getting harsh. I like it best with the volume at about "6 1/2" to "7 1/2". 2) The Bright channel in this circuit has always given me fits. Way too shrill. Rather than use the .0022 coupling cap off the first plate, I went with a .01uf, that improved things a lot. The biggest battle though was the fight with that pesky 500pf at the 470K mixing resistor, I've always thrown the best silver/mica cap money could buy for the 500pf and would end up taking it off, but with it off it wasn't right either. Finaly I thought I'd just this one time see if there was anything to the ceramic cap mojo. I happened to have a 500pf ceramic cap I had taken out of an ancient amp and threw it in that spot. Wow! It's true! I really thought it was going to be bullshit but it really did make a very noticable improvement. The final thing I do for this channel is have a 500pf on the Volume pot, for this I managed to find a 500pf in polypropylene/foil, I think the Parts Connection had it. This turns this into the perfect channel to match up with a Les Paul. 3) Be sure there is a .68 on the cathode of the second stage. 4) Because I prefer to use paper-in-oil .12uf caps for the coupling in the push-pull circuit, I use 33K for the negative feedback resistor. Originaly I had a 27K here, (1986 schematic), the 1987 schematic says 47K, so I experemented by putting a 50K pot in series so I could play around with the negative feedback resistance in the 27K to 77K range. To my surprise even 47K started to make the amp loose the articulation I like, above 55K it sounded horrible, the best sound, (to my ears), was around 35K so I chose the closest value I could to that, 33K, sounds great. 5) I keep the 1987 tone stack, (33K/500pf). Try the above, let me know if it works for you. This should be a interesting thread, too bad I'll be out of town for two weeks. John Kelley Brown sounds like good mods from here, thanks for posting! FWIW I prefer the .02's in the output stage paired with 100K bias splitters (keep the RC short, grid current down) and this works well IMHO with a 47K R -fb. .12 is Huge! Wow.. "talk about mud flaps.." ;-) speed I agree with speed 100%, in fact, the baddest tones aren't super high gain. Too much gain just turns your sound into mush. There's a point of diminishing returns with just about everything in life and gain is no exception. You can't beat a well constructed Plexi-style amp using good parts, and a power attentuator to control the volume. I just fired up a brand new amp. Took a different approach this time. I copied the 50 watt plexi circuit note for note with the exception of a 32uf PS cap for the preamp, and instead of using a 2.7k cathode resistor, I used an 820ohm cathode resistor on channel I and an 820ohm cathode resistor on channel II, a and switchable ss or tube rectifier. I built it on a heavy 1/4" thick aluminum chassis all PTP. This is pretty much a first for me, cuz I've always used tag and eyelet and steel chassis. I used a 50 watt OEI OT and a Hammond 272JX 250ma 300-300 PT. With the GZ34, the amp is running at 410 volts with just under 40ma per EL34 at idle. I just ballparked it so I could see what I needed to fix or redress if anything. I haven't tried the ss setting yet cuz I need to work on the bias circuit so it switches the bias voltage when I select the ss rectifier. I fired this Gem up expecting to have to tweak it quite a bit, but I have to say, right out of the starting gate she's sounding MIGHTY fine! UN-REAL!!!!!!!!!. Thanx Speed! You're the man! This amp has more than enough gain for any and all chores and sounds AWESOME cranked wide open. If I want the tone to dissapear, all I have to do is clean boost the front end. I think I'm going to be building a bunch of these once people hear 'em. KKKKKKILLER!!!!! Peter S Kimerik Amplifiers